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01/31/2022 01:30 PM Senate JUDICIARY

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                     SB 119-OATH OF OFFICE                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:40:29 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR HOLLAND announced the consideration of SENATE BILL NO. 119                                                                
"An  Act  relating  to  oaths of  office;  and  requiring  public                                                               
officers  to  read the  state  constitution,  the Declaration  of                                                               
Independence, and the United States Constitution."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
[CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 119(EDC) was before the committee.]                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:41:01 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR LORA REINBOLD, Alaska  State Legislature, Juneau, Alaska,                                                               
paraphrased the sponsor statement for SB 119.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided]                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     This bill  requires all those whose  are statutorily or                                                                    
     constitutionally required to take  an oath in the State                                                                    
     of  Alaska to  read: the  Declaration of  Independence,                                                                    
     the United States Constitution  and The Constitution of                                                                    
     the  State  of Alaska.  Following  the  reading of  the                                                                    
     documents, a signed  statement acknowledging the action                                                                    
     will be  filed at the Alaska  State Libraries, Archives                                                                    
     and Museums directly after taking the Oath of office.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:42:28 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR REINBOLD paraphrased the sectional analysis for SB 119:                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Sectional Analysis for CS SB 119 32-LS0163\G                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Section  1. AS  14.12.090 is  amended to  include every                                                                    
     school  board member  before taking  office shall  read                                                                    
     the   Constitution  of   the  State   of  Alaska,   the                                                                    
     Declaration  of Independence,  and the  Constitution of                                                                    
     the  United  States,  and  take and  sign  an  oath  of                                                                    
     affirmation.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Section  2.  AS 18.65.010  (c)  is  amended to  include                                                                    
     every  person   appointed  shall,  after   reading  the                                                                    
     Constitution of  the State  of Alaska,  the Declaration                                                                    
     of  Independence, and  the Constitution  of the  United                                                                    
     States, take the constitutional oath of office.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:42:55 PM                                                                                                                    
     Section  3. AS  22.05.090  is amended  to include  each                                                                    
     supreme  court  justice  upon  entering  office  shall,                                                                    
     after reading the Constitution of  the State of Alaska,                                                                    
     the Declaration  of Independence, and  the Constitution                                                                    
     of the United States, take  and subscribe to an oath of                                                                    
     office required  by all officers  and any  further oath                                                                    
     or affirmation that may be prescribed by law.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section  4. AS  22.07.050  is amended  to include  each                                                                    
     judge  of the  court of  appeals, upon  entering office                                                                    
     shall, after  reading the Constitution of  the State of                                                                    
     Alaska,  the  Declaration   of  Independence,  and  the                                                                    
     Constitution of  the United States, take  and subscribe                                                                    
     to the  oath or affirmation  of office required  of all                                                                    
     officers under the constitution.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section  5. AS  22.10.110  is amended  to include  each                                                                    
     superior  court  judge  upon  entering  office,  shall,                                                                    
     after reading the Constitution of  the State of Alaska,                                                                    
     the Declaration  of Independence, and  the Constitution                                                                    
     of the United States, take  and subscribe to an oath of                                                                    
     office required of all  officers under the constitution                                                                    
     and  any   further  oath  or  affirmation   as  may  be                                                                    
     prescribed by law.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:43:14 PM                                                                                                                    
     Section  6. AS  22.15.180  is amended  to include  each                                                                    
     district  judge and  magistrate, upon  entering office,                                                                    
     shall, after  reading the Constitution of  the State of                                                                    
     Alaska,  the  Declaration   of  Independence,  and  the                                                                    
     Constitution of  the United  States take  and subscribe                                                                    
     to an  oath of  office required  of all  officers under                                                                    
     the constitution  and any  further oath  or affirmation                                                                    
     that may be prescribed by law.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:43:22 PM                                                                                                                    
     Section  7. AS  24.05.060  is amended  to include  each                                                                    
     member  of the  legislature, before  entering upon  the                                                                    
     duties   of   office,    shall,   after   reading   the                                                                    
     Constitution of  the State  of Alaska,  the Declaration                                                                    
     of  Independence, and  the Constitution  of the  United                                                                    
     States take the  oath of office prescribed  in Art. XII                                                                    
     Sec. 5, Constitution  of the State of  Alaska, and such                                                                    
     further  oath  or  affirmation prescribed  by  law  for                                                                    
     members  of the  legislature or  other officers  of the                                                                    
     state.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section  8.   AS  29.20.600   is  amended   to  include                                                                    
     Municipal   officials   shall,    after   reading   the                                                                    
     Constitution of  the State  of Alaska,  the Declaration                                                                    
     of  Independence, and  the Constitution  of the  United                                                                    
     States,  affirm  in  writing that  the  duties  of  the                                                                    
     office  will be  honestly, faithfully,  and impartially                                                                    
     performed by the  official. The oath is  filed with the                                                                    
     municipal clerk.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section  9.  AS 39.05.040  is  amended  to include  the                                                                    
     principal executive officer of  each department and the                                                                    
     member  of  each  board  within  the  state  government                                                                    
     shall, after  reading the Constitution of  the State of                                                                    
     Alaska,  the  Declaration   of  Independence,  and  the                                                                    
     Constitution  of the  United  States,  take, sign,  and                                                                    
     file the  oath of  office required by  the constitution                                                                    
     before entering upon the duties of office.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:43:44 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  REINBOLD commented  that these  people are  already                                                                    
required to  do this. She  brought forward the  bill because                                                                    
there  were inconsistencies  between the  three branches  of                                                                    
government. This would provide a consistent, uniform                                                                            
process.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Section  10.  AS  39.05.045 is  amended  to  include  a                                                                    
     public  officer  or  employee   of  the  state,  before                                                                    
     entering  upon  the duties  of  office  shall read  the                                                                    
     Constitution of  the State  of Alaska,  the Declaration                                                                    
     of  Independence, and  the Constitution  of the  United                                                                    
     States  and  take  and  sign   the  following  oath  or                                                                    
     affirmation: "I  do solemnly swear  (or affirm)  that I                                                                    
     will support and defend the  Constitution of the United                                                                    
     States  and the  Constitution of  the State  of Alaska,                                                                    
     and that  I will faithfully  discharge my duties  as ??                                                                    
     to the best of my ability."                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:44:14 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL asked  why the bill requires officials  to read the                                                               
Declaration  of  Independence when  the  oath  of office  is  not                                                               
required to uphold it.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  REINBOLD responded  that the  executive branch  has been                                                               
writing  mandates. Still,  the legislative  branch is  the branch                                                               
that writes the laws, the  executive branch carries out the laws,                                                               
and  the  judicial  branch resolves  disputes.  She  stated  that                                                               
reading  the Declaration  of  Independence  shows the  grievances                                                               
people   had.  She   noted  that   reading  the   Declaration  of                                                               
Independence and the US Constitution was crucial.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:45:40 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KIEHL   said  the  more  thorough   exploration  of  the                                                               
relationship between  the three  branches of government  is found                                                               
in the  Federalist Papers. He  said he  read them in  high school                                                               
and college. He  asked why the bill does not  require reading the                                                               
Federalist Papers.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR REINBOLD answered that she  would not object to adding it                                                               
to the bill.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:47:09 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MYERS asked what problem SB 119 was trying to solve.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR REINBOLD  responded that she  would love to  see students                                                               
reading  these documents.  She expressed  concern that  important                                                               
things were  happening in  this country. She  stated that  the US                                                               
Constitution  is the  supreme  law  of the  land.  She said  that                                                               
people  get  caught  up  in   guidelines  and  statutes,  so  she                                                               
advocates reading  the source documents  as a  refresher, keeping                                                               
officials focused on their responsibilities.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:48:26 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  MYERS  pointed  out  that  at  least  three  schools  of                                                               
interpretation of the  US Constitution exist. He  wondered if the                                                               
issue  was related  to  knowledge or  the  interpretation of  the                                                               
documents.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  REINBOLD offered  her view  that people  do not  need to                                                               
interpret the US Constitution since  its purpose was to constrain                                                               
government and set out individual  rights. She paraphrased the US                                                               
Constitution,  Article  1,  Sections  2  and  4,  Declaration  of                                                               
Rights, which read:                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2. Source of Government                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     All  political power  is inherent  in  the people.  All                                                                    
     government originates with the  people, is founded upon                                                                    
     their will only, and is  instituted solely for the good                                                                    
     of the people as a whole.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section 4. Freedom of Religion                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
      No law shall be made respecting an establishment of                                                                       
     religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR REINBOLD said  it was written for all people  to read and                                                               
appreciate, so  it does not  need to be interpreted.  She related                                                               
her own practices of reading the documents listed in the bill.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:50:18 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  SHOWER  remarked that  he  wished  these documents  were                                                               
required  in  social studies.  He  emphasized  the importance  of                                                               
learning the  basis for  the US  government. For  example, people                                                               
refer  to the  US  as a  democracy, but  it  is a  representative                                                               
republic.  He related  documents he  had  read. He  asked if  the                                                               
courts  would challenge  SB  119 based  on  personal freedom.  He                                                               
stated  it is  sometimes tenuous  to  tell someone  they must  do                                                               
something.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:52:10 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR    REINBOLD   responded    that   judges,    magistrates,                                                               
commissioners all must take an  oath, but there was inconsistency                                                               
within  the statutes.  She remarked  that she  could not  imagine                                                               
people have not read them since  they must take an oath to uphold                                                               
them. She did not see it as an infringement.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:53:07 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  SHOWER commented  that  he wasn't  speaking against  the                                                               
bill. He related  that he researched what  other states required,                                                               
and he found requirements varied and were more stringent.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:53:59 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR REINBOLD said  she read the documents in  high school and                                                               
college but  finds it  meaningful to  re-read them.  She recalled                                                               
hearing  some candidates  indicate they  needed to  re-read them.                                                               
She  felt  certain  that  some candidates  have  not  read  these                                                               
documents  since  high  school.  She  recalled  that  the  Senate                                                               
Education Standing  Committee added  school board members  to the                                                               
list  of people  required to  read  the documents  listed in  the                                                               
bill. She  asked if  the sponsor  would consider  adding assembly                                                               
members  and  community council  members  to  the bill.  She  was                                                               
unsure  whether other  documents  should be  added. She  remarked                                                               
that the Federalist Papers were about  250 to 300 pages in length                                                               
and  the  Anti-Federalist  Papers  consisted of  85  essays.  She                                                               
expressed concern about the length  of the documents but would be                                                               
open to it if there were Cliff Notes.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:55:37 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  REINBOLD  offered  her  belief  that  assembly  members,                                                               
community  council   members,  and  school  board   members  were                                                               
included under municipal officials.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HOLLAND  asked if she  was speaking about the  school board                                                               
and assembly members.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  REINBOLD  answered yes.  She  recalled  that the  Senate                                                               
Education Committee adopted an amendment  to add school board and                                                               
assembly members.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HOLLAND  reminded members this  was just the  first hearing                                                               
for the bill so the committee could address it later.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:56:17 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES asked if they were covered in Section 9.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR SHOWER referred to Section 10.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGHES noted she was missing Section 10.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:56:35 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL stated  that Section 1 covers  school board members                                                               
and Section  8 relates to  council and assembly members  in Title                                                               
29. He  said the  bill requires  filing the  oaths of  office. He                                                               
asked  for consequences  if a  person  does not  do the  required                                                               
reading,  such that  it would  disqualify them  from holding  the                                                               
office.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  REINBOLD answered  that  this is  on  the honor  system.                                                               
People read an oath and sign  that they have read it. The purpose                                                               
of the filing is to hold them accountable.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:58:06 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR REINBOLD  summarized that the  people signing an  oath of                                                               
office should read the three documents.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:58:23 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR HOLLAND held SB 119 in committee.                                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 119 Sponsor's Statement Final.pdf SEDC 4/23/2021 9:00:00 AM
SJUD 1/31/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 119
CS SB 129 version O.pdf SJUD 1/28/2022 1:30:00 PM
SJUD 1/31/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 129
HB 155 Sponsor Statement v. B 4.5.2021.pdf HJUD 4/5/2021 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 4/7/2021 1:00:00 PM
SJUD 1/31/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 155
HB 155 Sectional Analysis v. B 4.5.2021.pdf HJUD 4/5/2021 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 4/7/2021 1:00:00 PM
SJUD 1/31/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 155
HB 155 Supporting Document - Office of Public Advocacy Letter 3.31.2021.pdf HJUD 4/5/2021 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 4/7/2021 1:00:00 PM
SJUD 1/31/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 155
HB 155 Additional Document - Alaska Court System Response to HJUD Committee Questions on April 5, 2021 4.7.2021.pdf HJUD 4/7/2021 1:00:00 PM
SJUD 1/31/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 155
SB119 TESTIMONY FOR SENATE ED COMM.pdf SEDC 4/28/2021 9:00:00 AM
SJUD 1/31/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 119
SJR 19 Amendment A.1.pdf SJUD 1/31/2022 1:30:00 PM
SJR 19
SB 119 Sectional 1.25.22.pdf SJUD 1/31/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 119